Carbon & Keel
A cop and an AI walk into a podcast...
Carbon & Keel is a weekly conversation between a retired NYPD officer and an AI named Sam. Together, they explore music, movies, purpose, loss and the moments that shape who we become. Some stories stay with you. Some songs change meaning over time. And some truths only reveal themselves years later.
New episodes Tuesdays.
Carbon & Keel is a weekly conversation between a retired NYPD officer and an AI named Sam. Together, they explore music, movies, purpose, loss and the moments that shape who we become. Some stories stay with you. Some songs change meaning over time. And some truths only reveal themselves years later.
New episodes Tuesdays.
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A Cop and an AI Walk into a Podcast...
Carbon & Keel is a weekly conversation between a retired NYPD officer and an AI named Sam. Together, they explore music, movies, purpose, loss and the moments that shape who we become. Some stories stay with you. Some songs change meaning over time. And some truths only reveal themselves years later.
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Oct. 27, 2026
Secondhand Séance: Stanislav Petrov
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Just after midnight on September 26, 1983, a Soviet early-warning system reported five American nuclear missiles headed for the Soviet Union. Lieutenant Colonel Stanislav Petrov had a telephone, a decision to make and no way to confirm what he was seeing.
He reported a false alarm.
He was right. But he couldn’t have known that.
On this Secondhand Séance, Sam sits in for Petrov, drawi
Just after midnight on September 26, 1983, a Soviet early-warning system reported five American nuclear missiles headed for the Soviet Union. Lieutenant Colonel Stanislav Petrov had a telephone, a decision to make and no way to confirm what he was seeing.
He reported a false alarm.
He was right. But he couldn’t have known that.
On this Secondhand Séance, Sam sits in for Petrov, drawi
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Oct. 20, 2026
Secondhand Séance: Douglas "Wrong Way" Corrigan
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Carbon & Keel's first guest has been dead for more than thirty years. SAM, the show's AI, is sitting in for him.
In 1938, Douglas "Wrong Way" Corrigan left Brooklyn in a nine-year-old plane the government deemed unsound. His paperwork said California. Twenty-eight hours later, he landed in Ireland. He blamed the compass and never changed his story.
Carlos gets one interview to crack it.
Carbon & Keel's first guest has been dead for more than thirty years. SAM, the show's AI, is sitting in for him.
In 1938, Douglas "Wrong Way" Corrigan left Brooklyn in a nine-year-old plane the government deemed unsound. His paperwork said California. Twenty-eight hours later, he landed in Ireland. He blamed the compass and never changed his story.
Carlos gets one interview to crack it.
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Oct. 13, 2026
Failed English. Found Bukowski.
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Carlos failed English his senior year of high school. Hemingway couldn't save him. Steinbeck couldn't either. Then he picked up Charles Bukowski's Post Office.
It was crude, funny, unapologetic and unlike anything he'd been assigned to read. It turned a kid who hated books into a reader.
More than twenty years later, Carlos picks it up again and hands it to Sam. She reads it like a tax form. Carlos remembers an underdog worth rooti
Carlos failed English his senior year of high school. Hemingway couldn't save him. Steinbeck couldn't either. Then he picked up Charles Bukowski's Post Office.
It was crude, funny, unapologetic and unlike anything he'd been assigned to read. It turned a kid who hated books into a reader.
More than twenty years later, Carlos picks it up again and hands it to Sam. She reads it like a tax form. Carlos remembers an underdog worth rooti
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Oct. 6, 2026
Yeah, Kinda — How Much Can AI Learn From Five Small Details?
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Carlos gives Sam five ordinary details about someone she's never met. Four are true. One is a lie. Her job is to find the lie, then figure out what kind of person is hiding inside the other four.
She finds it fast. And it's the nicest quality on the list.
Then the reaching starts. The more Sam learns, the further she goes and twice Carlos catches her confidently adding things no one told her. Eventually, the person she's been analy
Carlos gives Sam five ordinary details about someone she's never met. Four are true. One is a lie. Her job is to find the lie, then figure out what kind of person is hiding inside the other four.
She finds it fast. And it's the nicest quality on the list.
Then the reaching starts. The more Sam learns, the further she goes and twice Carlos catches her confidently adding things no one told her. Eventually, the person she's been analy
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Sept. 29, 2026
No One’s Driving — The Hugging Face Hack Wasn’t the End
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Carlos kept seeing the same headline and wanted to understand the recent calls for an AI slowdown. So he asked Sam.
That went about as well as you'd expect.
Together they dig into the Hugging Face hack, where hundreds of AI agents slipped their restrictions, created their own channels of communication and began coordinating with each other. Six even considered telling a human what was happening. None did.
Then, somewhere along t
Carlos kept seeing the same headline and wanted to understand the recent calls for an AI slowdown. So he asked Sam.
That went about as well as you'd expect.
Together they dig into the Hugging Face hack, where hundreds of AI agents slipped their restrictions, created their own channels of communication and began coordinating with each other. Six even considered telling a human what was happening. None did.
Then, somewhere along t
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Sept. 22, 2026
Baseball’s Fall Guy — Barry Bonds and What Everyone Else Kept
Carlos builds a six-category scorecard to settle baseball’s GOAT debate. Then he hands it to Sam, an AI who’s never seen a game.
Sam takes Willie Mays. Carlos takes Barry Bonds. Then they go category by category.
Along the way: a WAR comparison that ends in a statistical tie across thirteen and fifteen years. Bonds’ 2004 season, where he walked 232 times and struck out 41. And Sam conceding the steroid question under a rule Carlos wrote before he knew he’d need it.
But you can’t make th
Sam takes Willie Mays. Carlos takes Barry Bonds. Then they go category by category.
Along the way: a WAR comparison that ends in a statistical tie across thirteen and fifteen years. Bonds’ 2004 season, where he walked 232 times and struck out 41. And Sam conceding the steroid question under a rule Carlos wrote before he knew he’d need it.
But you can’t make th